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    View Article  Solar cogeneration. From a discussion on WorldChanging.com invention blog.

    Discussing this solar design:

    http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003168.html

    Here:

    http://www.worldchanging.com/cgi-bin/blather.cgi?entry_id=3168

    You guys are overlooking the important part of this, overpowering solar energy focused on a water cooled PV cell works.

    Maybe not as well as it could given a simpler design, but still this proves you can overpower a solar cell.

    Now how about a rotary mirror system that allows the solar cells to produce synchronous AC current for the grid. This could provide greater efficiency from the cells as it would temper the heating effect.

    The whole floating thing is kind of strange, and the use of a lense means it can only work in direct sunlight, not diffuse cloud light.

    Plus the heat from the cooling water is not collected.

    Combined with algae growth systems that use the excess photosynthetic light, and provide rapid evaporation to distill water and collect heat, and biofuel systems to process the algae using solar power, this system could produce maximum hours of peak electric power from the expensive part of solar power,the PV cells, while providing waste water recycling, biofuel (hydrogen,biodiesel, ethanol, and methane), organic fertilizer, and heat for either heating or cooling (adsorption cycle)buildings.

    Solar cogeneration, the next wave in renewable energy, hang 10!

    View Article  More argument on wind power. using info from Clipper Wind, a leading edge US manufacrurer of wind installations.

    http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2005/7/18/1459/58709#32

    Hmmm..reality may clear things.
    http://www.clipperwind.com/company.htm

    ..Up for you a bit.  This company run by the original founders of the company GE aquired and branded as GE windpower.

    They are a few generations ahead of GE.  US manufactured wind power!

    If you want facts and figures that disprove the ultilty of wind go find them yourself eric.  I'm only seeing good news on this front.

    There are plenty of sites that feature bad news about renewables, google and enjoy!  But don't expect much agreement with talking point based propaganda from anywhere but the fairthbased corporatist oil war fans.

    You will note...
    That the contract signed with the Iowa utility by clipper was based on supplying a given number of kwh per year.

    Just as I said, that is the only way to really compare and rate energy output from various sources and calculate cost.

    Clipper puts it's money on the line signing on to guarantee that power output.

    Your facts and figures obscure this kind of analysis.  To paraphrase  Joe Friday ..Just the facts maam (er..eric).

    No clue...
    "..an installed capacity of about 4,480 MW "

    No clue or link to find a clue to what that figure is based upon?  

    Rating wind generators is usually done at a certain wind speed, sometimes this windspeed corresponds to the average wind speed where it is installed, but often it is not.

    An arbitrary figure is usually chosen by the manufacturer.

    If we rate a given wind machine at 10 mph  wind speed, then the rating at twice that speed would be 8 times greater.  That leaves a lot of leeway in your statistics.

    So much so that they are meaningless.  Stick to the standard that utility companies estimate costs, and sign contracts on.  Kwh per year.  

    As far as your extrapolation?
    http://www.clipperwind.com/how_we_serve_you.htm

    Read this about the area taken up, roads, power lines, land use...right up to the base!!  Of the tower.

    Once again your analysis is to laugh at.  Hehehey.